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		<title>By: p.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 14:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do we determine if we&#039;ve really achieved something? the unenlightened human mind is set to crave more and more after it has achieved its initial goals,thus creating more suffering (ie. the feeling of discontent due to thoughts of one not achieving anything)wisdom could do a lot to help here.

on your side note in the previous comment,i personally think that we,the people of the world are actually believing in the exact same thing.all of us want the same things-happiness,peace,etc.it&#039;s merely that the &#039;packaging&#039; of what we believe in is different.like a mathematical solution,just simplify them all..and the answer is the same.you and me.everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do we determine if we&#8217;ve really achieved something? the unenlightened human mind is set to crave more and more after it has achieved its initial goals,thus creating more suffering (ie. the feeling of discontent due to thoughts of one not achieving anything)wisdom could do a lot to help here.</p>
<p>on your side note in the previous comment,i personally think that we,the people of the world are actually believing in the exact same thing.all of us want the same things-happiness,peace,etc.it&#8217;s merely that the &#8216;packaging&#8217; of what we believe in is different.like a mathematical solution,just simplify them all..and the answer is the same.you and me.everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dion Moult</title>
		<link>http://thinkmoult.com/2009/05/24/achieving-what/comment-page-1/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Dion Moult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 12:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoted from chat log:

Dion Moult: hello
Florentyna Leow: hi
Dion Moult: was wondering what your views were on my latest post
Florentyna Leow: good timing, i just left a comment
Dion Moult: hahahaha
Dion Moult: you just gave me the sort of joy that comes when something happens exactly like how you predict it
Dion Moult: in this sentence &quot;cannot help but think of Achebe who said ¿Writers don¿t give prescriptions, they give headaches!¿&quot;
Dion Moult: not that i predicted the quote
Dion Moult: but the concept
Dion Moult: you see, we already know there&#039;s a problem
Dion Moult: we use quotes by people living hundreds of years ago to prove it
Florentyna Leow: he&#039;s alive.
Florentyna Leow: nitpicking, go on
Dion Moult: is he a scientist studying behavior and psychology?
Florentyna Leow: does that make any difference, curiously
Dion Moult: &quot;our children are ruder, meaner, and a disgrace to the calm of our society. Disrespecting elders and talking back.&quot;
Dion Moult: ^ Socrates
Dion Moult: yes, it makes a big difference
Dion Moult: because all we&#039;re doing is saying &quot;hey, i discovered something that was...damn, this guy already thought of it.&quot; &quot;oh, everybody ignored him too&quot;
Florentyna Leow: hah
Florentyna Leow: no, he&#039;s not. he&#039;s a Nigerian writer.
Florentyna Leow: that quote was contextually political
Dion Moult: well, that&#039;s point 3 that he&#039;s a nigerian writer
Dion Moult: in fact when i gave my rose analogy in my &quot;math in daily life&quot; paper a long time ago ms pow said shakesphere gave a very similar quote
Dion Moult: i know nuts about english but perhaps you remember something shakesphear said about a rose
Florentyna Leow: um...a rose by any other name would smell as sweet?
Dion Moult: yeah that
Dion Moult: it&#039;s a big pity nobody bothers to think &quot;why is everybody ignoring me&quot;
Florentyna Leow: you mean, &quot;out loud&quot;?
Florentyna Leow: i think that thought goes through a lot of people&#039;s heads
Florentyna Leow: just that they wouldn&#039;t say that out loud
Dion Moult: see points 2 and 3 in my post for that
Dion Moult: &quot; they rarely consider how realistic and practical their approach is&quot;
Dion Moult: &quot;This includes communicating the problem, communicating the solution, and carrying out the solution&quot;
Dion Moult: i was ironic after i gave my thoughts on the open source community (part 2) that i actually experienced it first hand with Blendernation 
Dion Moult: (if you read those posts)
Dion Moult: and that was the &quot;practical&quot; and &quot;realistic&quot; part of solving a problem
Dion Moult: i don&#039;t know about you
Dion Moult: but what i want to do with my life is to do something practical
Dion Moult: it&#039;s easy to think. that&#039;s what we&#039;ve been doing for god knows how long
Florentyna Leow: be it far from my intention to disagree with you
Florentyna Leow: still suggesting that their purpose is still to get people to think
Florentyna Leow: because..like you said, &quot;most people are stupid&quot; (not thinking)
Dion Moult: perhaps my point 3 didn&#039;t communicate well
Dion Moult: &quot;It is time to embrace wisdom, to actually understand the broad and bigger picture, and only then can something actually worth talking about be done.&quot;
Dion Moult: the wisdom section refers to actually properly understanding the problem
Dion Moult: it&#039;s no use communicating something you don&#039;t understand yourself.
Dion Moult: it&#039;s only useful to communicate a misunderstood issue if it&#039;s small scale. this brings in valid ideas.
Dion Moult: on such a large scale, this is miscommunication, or if not, at least ineffective.
Dion Moult: ineffective - proven by so many hundred years of deja vu moments.

Note: the second video (link at bottom) has a good deal more quotes from dead people (mostly writers, too). The most awesome collection of &quot;dead people epiphanic quotes&quot; can be found in whatever religious texts you follow. (I am not insulting religion here, do not misunderstand what I wrote)

As a side note, have you ever thought:
&quot;We would live harmoniously if we all believed exactly the same thing, even if what we believed was completely erroneous.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoted from chat log:</p>
<p>Dion Moult: hello<br />
Florentyna Leow: hi<br />
Dion Moult: was wondering what your views were on my latest post<br />
Florentyna Leow: good timing, i just left a comment<br />
Dion Moult: hahahaha<br />
Dion Moult: you just gave me the sort of joy that comes when something happens exactly like how you predict it<br />
Dion Moult: in this sentence &#8220;cannot help but think of Achebe who said ¿Writers don¿t give prescriptions, they give headaches!¿&#8221;<br />
Dion Moult: not that i predicted the quote<br />
Dion Moult: but the concept<br />
Dion Moult: you see, we already know there&#8217;s a problem<br />
Dion Moult: we use quotes by people living hundreds of years ago to prove it<br />
Florentyna Leow: he&#8217;s alive.<br />
Florentyna Leow: nitpicking, go on<br />
Dion Moult: is he a scientist studying behavior and psychology?<br />
Florentyna Leow: does that make any difference, curiously<br />
Dion Moult: &#8220;our children are ruder, meaner, and a disgrace to the calm of our society. Disrespecting elders and talking back.&#8221;<br />
Dion Moult: ^ Socrates<br />
Dion Moult: yes, it makes a big difference<br />
Dion Moult: because all we&#8217;re doing is saying &#8220;hey, i discovered something that was&#8230;damn, this guy already thought of it.&#8221; &#8220;oh, everybody ignored him too&#8221;<br />
Florentyna Leow: hah<br />
Florentyna Leow: no, he&#8217;s not. he&#8217;s a Nigerian writer.<br />
Florentyna Leow: that quote was contextually political<br />
Dion Moult: well, that&#8217;s point 3 that he&#8217;s a nigerian writer<br />
Dion Moult: in fact when i gave my rose analogy in my &#8220;math in daily life&#8221; paper a long time ago ms pow said shakesphere gave a very similar quote<br />
Dion Moult: i know nuts about english but perhaps you remember something shakesphear said about a rose<br />
Florentyna Leow: um&#8230;a rose by any other name would smell as sweet?<br />
Dion Moult: yeah that<br />
Dion Moult: it&#8217;s a big pity nobody bothers to think &#8220;why is everybody ignoring me&#8221;<br />
Florentyna Leow: you mean, &#8220;out loud&#8221;?<br />
Florentyna Leow: i think that thought goes through a lot of people&#8217;s heads<br />
Florentyna Leow: just that they wouldn&#8217;t say that out loud<br />
Dion Moult: see points 2 and 3 in my post for that<br />
Dion Moult: &#8221; they rarely consider how realistic and practical their approach is&#8221;<br />
Dion Moult: &#8220;This includes communicating the problem, communicating the solution, and carrying out the solution&#8221;<br />
Dion Moult: i was ironic after i gave my thoughts on the open source community (part 2) that i actually experienced it first hand with Blendernation<br />
Dion Moult: (if you read those posts)<br />
Dion Moult: and that was the &#8220;practical&#8221; and &#8220;realistic&#8221; part of solving a problem<br />
Dion Moult: i don&#8217;t know about you<br />
Dion Moult: but what i want to do with my life is to do something practical<br />
Dion Moult: it&#8217;s easy to think. that&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve been doing for god knows how long<br />
Florentyna Leow: be it far from my intention to disagree with you<br />
Florentyna Leow: still suggesting that their purpose is still to get people to think<br />
Florentyna Leow: because..like you said, &#8220;most people are stupid&#8221; (not thinking)<br />
Dion Moult: perhaps my point 3 didn&#8217;t communicate well<br />
Dion Moult: &#8220;It is time to embrace wisdom, to actually understand the broad and bigger picture, and only then can something actually worth talking about be done.&#8221;<br />
Dion Moult: the wisdom section refers to actually properly understanding the problem<br />
Dion Moult: it&#8217;s no use communicating something you don&#8217;t understand yourself.<br />
Dion Moult: it&#8217;s only useful to communicate a misunderstood issue if it&#8217;s small scale. this brings in valid ideas.<br />
Dion Moult: on such a large scale, this is miscommunication, or if not, at least ineffective.<br />
Dion Moult: ineffective &#8211; proven by so many hundred years of deja vu moments.</p>
<p>Note: the second video (link at bottom) has a good deal more quotes from dead people (mostly writers, too). The most awesome collection of &#8220;dead people epiphanic quotes&#8221; can be found in whatever religious texts you follow. (I am not insulting religion here, do not misunderstand what I wrote)</p>
<p>As a side note, have you ever thought:<br />
&#8220;We would live harmoniously if we all believed exactly the same thing, even if what we believed was completely erroneous.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: flory</title>
		<link>http://thinkmoult.com/2009/05/24/achieving-what/comment-page-1/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>flory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 11:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rambling two cents, take with pinch of salt: 
i think the whole point of these talks - and it can seem a bit lazy - is to provoke the idea that there is a problem in the first place (finding fault). if much of the world is stupid, then surely identifying the fact that there is a problem in the first place takes a greater intellectual leap. which is, probably, the whole point of TED.

cannot help but think of Achebe who said &quot;Writers don&#039;t give prescriptions, they give headaches!&quot; same thing with these speakers - if we agree with them and think that that is the problem then it&#039;s up to us to find our own prescriptions. 

not very coherent, but what the hey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rambling two cents, take with pinch of salt:<br />
i think the whole point of these talks &#8211; and it can seem a bit lazy &#8211; is to provoke the idea that there is a problem in the first place (finding fault). if much of the world is stupid, then surely identifying the fact that there is a problem in the first place takes a greater intellectual leap. which is, probably, the whole point of TED.</p>
<p>cannot help but think of Achebe who said &#8220;Writers don&#8217;t give prescriptions, they give headaches!&#8221; same thing with these speakers &#8211; if we agree with them and think that that is the problem then it&#8217;s up to us to find our own prescriptions. </p>
<p>not very coherent, but what the hey.</p>
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