Comments on: Perspective Failure http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/ Seriously who ever reads this description. Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:02:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: thinkMoult » Blog Archive » Perspective Magazine Feb 09 Released! http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-352 thinkMoult » Blog Archive » Perspective Magazine Feb 09 Released! Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:20:00 +0000 http://thinkmoult.com/?p=453#comment-352 [...] slightly more unfortunate news, apparently my previous post about the importance of the design phase in Perspective has caused one of the editors in the team to be quite angry. I’m not quite certain what [...] [...] slightly more unfortunate news, apparently my previous post about the importance of the design phase in Perspective has caused one of the editors in the team to be quite angry. I’m not quite certain what [...]

]]> By: Dion Moult http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-351 Dion Moult Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:55:00 +0000 http://thinkmoult.com/?p=453#comment-351 Apparently this post caused a bit of a dispute by an editor. I think the most sensible thing to do now is to start by preventing further comments on this post. Should this escalate, the post itself will be removed (with a privately kept archive in case references need to be made) Apparently this post caused a bit of a dispute by an editor. I think the most sensible thing to do now is to start by preventing further comments on this post.

Should this escalate, the post itself will be removed (with a privately kept archive in case references need to be made)

]]> By: eriko http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-349 eriko Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:00:11 +0000 http://thinkmoult.com/?p=453#comment-349 mr. layout designer, I bear with you. luckily you have got yourself an army of like-minded designers ready to crush the opression. or something. :) mr. layout designer, I bear with you. luckily you have got yourself an army of like-minded designers ready to crush the opression. or something.

:)

]]> By: Justin http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-348 Justin Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:44:57 +0000 http://thinkmoult.com/?p=453#comment-348 Your printer making mincemeat of your work == send them a very nasty letter, and go elsewhere, at the very least. Your printer making mincemeat of your work == send them a very nasty letter, and go elsewhere, at the very least.

]]> By: Bryan http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-347 Bryan Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:43:44 +0000 http://thinkmoult.com/?p=453#comment-347 I agree with you wholeheartedly. A designer should be allowed to do his/her job, that is designing. Rushed work simply just doesn't reflect a designer's true potential. A designer should get his/her own reasonable freedom to let the creative juices flow. Good luck, I wanna see the snapshot! :P I agree with you wholeheartedly. A designer should be allowed to do his/her job, that is designing. Rushed work simply just doesn’t reflect a designer’s true potential. A designer should get his/her own reasonable freedom to let the creative juices flow.

Good luck, I wanna see the snapshot! :P

]]> By: Dion Moult http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-346 Dion Moult Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:44:46 +0000 http://thinkmoult.com/?p=453#comment-346 I'm not saying the design is bad (how could I haha), and I would like to clear any misconception that I personally have a huge grudge over the system. What I am saying is that the "design" stage of the creation is at the moment undervalued - or another way would be to say there isn't enough emphasis being put on it. What is needed is for people to realise that design isn't just at the last stage in the creation process where bits and pieces are just lumped together - not to mention a deadline coming up for printing. Design takes time, and this should be respected - time must be allocated so that proper design can take place, not just the minor changes made to the page templates and colourscheme for each issue. When I see writers slacking each meeting, I think there is something nobody can deny that is wrong with the scheduling. What I would like is to be able to design each and every page, not just pile boxes of text with the occasional image. - and as I said to somebody the other day: "I know the difference between good design and a sociology poster". For this to happen, writers need to be pressured to submit earlier, article titles and themes must be confirmed a LOT earlier, instead of a i'm-not-sure-if-this-is-going-in-or-not, and finally the printers need to sort themselves out. They might be colour blind, but I doubt most of us are. Again thank you for your comments, and hopefully sometime this week I will be able to post up a snapshot of this Perspective issue. I’m not saying the design is bad (how could I haha), and I would like to clear any misconception that I personally have a huge grudge over the system.

What I am saying is that the “design” stage of the creation is at the moment undervalued – or another way would be to say there isn’t enough emphasis being put on it. What is needed is for people to realise that design isn’t just at the last stage in the creation process where bits and pieces are just lumped together – not to mention a deadline coming up for printing. Design takes time, and this should be respected – time must be allocated so that proper design can take place, not just the minor changes made to the page templates and colourscheme for each issue. When I see writers slacking each meeting, I think there is something nobody can deny that is wrong with the scheduling.

What I would like is to be able to design each and every page, not just pile boxes of text with the occasional image. – and as I said to somebody the other day: “I know the difference between good design and a sociology poster”. For this to happen, writers need to be pressured to submit earlier, article titles and themes must be confirmed a LOT earlier, instead of a i’m-not-sure-if-this-is-going-in-or-not, and finally the printers need to sort themselves out. They might be colour blind, but I doubt most of us are.

Again thank you for your comments, and hopefully sometime this week I will be able to post up a snapshot of this Perspective issue.

]]> By: p. http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-345 p. Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:29:53 +0000 http://thinkmoult.com/?p=453#comment-345 i'd suppose designers ARE allowed to design in whichever and whatever method and way they want.after all,why do they need a designer anyway? it isn't that bad.the perspective-i mean. i’d suppose designers ARE allowed to design in whichever and whatever method and way they want.after all,why do they need a designer anyway?
it isn’t that bad.the perspective-i mean.

]]> By: Dana http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-344 Dana Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:07:46 +0000 http://thinkmoult.com/?p=453#comment-344 Oh - and good luck. Oh – and good luck.

]]> By: Dana http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-343 Dana Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:07:28 +0000 http://thinkmoult.com/?p=453#comment-343 "It’s almost as bad as the time I got asked to do a 10 minute animation in 2 days." You made the most of it that time, in more than one way. If only there was a similar print alternative that isn't 'so-last-year' anymore. (Got rickroll'd TWICE yesterday...who does that shit anymore?) About next time... Most importantly, get the base design done before anything else. Set a deadline two or so weeks before the release date for finished (and edited) articles so you'll have a week to finish any fancy la-di-das. Any articles that miss the deadline can go on the next issue, no problem. And get a new printer/supplier. This one seems cheap; GIS should aim higher, being such an expensive school. “It’s almost as bad as the time I got asked to do a 10 minute animation in 2 days.”

You made the most of it that time, in more than one way. If only there was a similar print alternative that isn’t ‘so-last-year’ anymore. (Got rickroll’d TWICE yesterday…who does that shit anymore?)

About next time… Most importantly, get the base design done before anything else. Set a deadline two or so weeks before the release date for finished (and edited) articles so you’ll have a week to finish any fancy la-di-das. Any articles that miss the deadline can go on the next issue, no problem.

And get a new printer/supplier. This one seems cheap; GIS should aim higher, being such an expensive school.

]]> By: Jackson Sabey http://thinkmoult.com/2009/02/12/perspective-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-342 Jackson Sabey Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:40:26 +0000 http://thinkmoult.com/?p=453#comment-342 Taz summed up what I was going to say. Taz summed up what I was going to say.

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